By Bob Lai, Tawcan
Special to Financial Independence Hub
On paper, Financial Independence Retire Early (FIRE) is a simple concept: spend less than you earn, grow your savings gap, optimize your taxes, invest your savings, and wait for your money to compound over time.
To be more specific, if you’re on the FIRE journey with a partner, how do you make sure the two of you are aligned? After all, if you and your partner aren’t on the same page, none of it matters.
For us, Mrs. T and I have been on the FI journey since 2011. This year marks the 15th year of our journey. That’s 15 years of saving, budgeting, investing, making difficult financial decisions, and occasionally having disagreements on money-related decisions.
I figure it’s worthwhile to spend some time discussing how we stay aligned on money and some of the relationship challenges we have faced since we started our FI journey.
How it all started: The financial epiphany
Although both of us came from frugal backgrounds and we both learned in our youth to spend less than we earn, we didn’t really focus on optimizing our finances or investing intentionally when we started dating and when we started living together.
It wasn’t until we read the Secret of Millionaire Mindset that we started having deeper and more detailed conversations about money and how we want our financial future to be. Around the same time, we were also considering getting married, so it was important to make sure we were both aligned on our future financial plans. We both recognized that building wealth through saving and investing could give us more options and freedom in the future.
But just because we talked about money didn’t mean we always agreed on every financial decision we made.
Far from that!
How we are different due to our money personalities
Mrs. T and I don’t think about money the same way.
Deep down, I’m an “extreme” saver and optimizer. I’d always find ways to optimize things and try to save as much money as possible. Even if I could save 50% on something, I would try to find more ways to save another 20%.
Mrs. T, on the other hand, is a more balanced saver. She doesn’t like spending money unnecessarily, but typically won’t climb the mountain to see if she could save even more.
Another way we are different is that I’m a self-proclaimed spreadsheet nerd. I am a numbers person and I love spreadsheets. I have many different spreadsheets tracking different things and data, charting our historical trends and projecting future ones. Whenever I see data in spreadsheets, I see data and optimization opportunities.
Mrs. T likes spreadsheets too but not nearly to the extent that I do.. She’s more practical and intuitive. She cares whether we have enough and whether we can enjoy life now without sacrificing our future. She likes to see things from the 30,000-foot view rather than getting into the nitty-gritty details, as I do.
Our different money personalities created some disagreements and discontent when we first started our FI journey. For example, Mrs. T enjoyed going to a cafe to have great conversations while having a good cup of coffee and delicious pastries (i.e. having hygge). Meanwhile, I would calculate in my mind how much money we could have saved and invested if we hadn’t spent the money.
Realizing what we needed to keep us aligned
Over time, I realized my save-save-save-then-save-more default mentality wasn’t healthy. I learned that I need to relax and spend money to enjoy the present moment. On the flip side, Mrs. T began to understand my worries and my insecurity with not having enough money and started to cut back slightly on the “nice to have” expenses.
We found our “balance” by meeting each other in the middle. We both learned that it’s vital for us to stay aligned financially. These are some systems and habits that have helped us:
Regular money conversations
We talk about money regularly but we try to keep it natural and relaxed rather than turning these chats into formal meetings. We’ll talk about money over meals, over coffee hygge, or while driving. Quite often, we involve both kids and explain to them why we are talking about these topics. In our household, we don’t shy away from money talks, we encourage them.
These money conversations happen regularly, sometimes multiple times a day. We keep them very casual and relaxed. Although we have regular money conversations, we don’t discuss our investment portfolio and net worth daily. We want to ignore the noise and focus on the long term. I’m in charge of the details and I provide Mrs. T the big picture updates without overwhelming her with all the details. So when it comes to investment portfolio and net worth, we typically discuss them in detail every quarter.
Reviewing our expenses: focusing on the trends rather than amount spent
When we first started tracking our expenses and using our budget system, I was very much focused on how much we spent on the different categories every month. I wasn’t looking at the big picture and certainly wasn’t focusing on the spending trend.
As our net worth grew larger and we had a few years of spending data on our hands, we finally developed a system that works for us. Every 6 months, Mrs. T and I will sit down for about 10 to 15 minutes to look at our spending spreadsheet. We look at the trends and see if there are categories we are overspending or underspending. If we are overspending in a certain category, we try to find out why. For example, if we were spending more than usual on dining out, perhaps it was because we had friends or family visiting.
Making the financial big decisions together
For the most part, I manage our investment portfolio and make the buying and selling decisions. Sometimes I would consult with Mrs. T if I were to make drastic decisions like adding a new position or closing a position. Mrs. T trusts my judgment on the day-to-day investment decisions, but I found it is always a good idea to talk to her about my investment thesis and get an agreement on big portfolio moves.< Continue Reading…








